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Post by newboy on Jul 8, 2009 18:58:51 GMT 1
By that i mean the more developed countries paticularly USA, UK, France, Germany, Russia, Japan and Canada. But also most countries in Euroupe, Arabia, and some in South America.
My question is are therich countries unfair in not sharing out wealth among poorer countries, and instead spending it on developing nuclear bombs and god knows what else, if even a few of these nations gave a significant portion of their free cash world poverty would be relieved. Instead, they set up feeble charities to make it look like they care.
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Post by s h a d o w. on Jul 9, 2009 2:27:32 GMT 1
I do beleive its unfair people are dieing in poor countries because we spend our money on stupid things
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Post by Titanis on Jul 9, 2009 17:19:15 GMT 1
Well western nations have always cared less about the rest of the world. Think colonialism, slavery, genocide of the native Americans...
I think it would be great if a universal standard of living could be established. That would be the right first step for humanity living in harmony with itself and the planet. And also for moving on to become a Kardashev type-2 civilization, which would also be great.
But, are we sure we want to just be sharing money with everybody? What about those countries whose governments mistreat their citizens, don't allow free unhampered votes? What about those countries who seem hell bent on destruction if left to their own devices? Two countries I can think of come to mind: North Korea and Iran. Do we really want to give them any money? They may just spend it on weapons of their own rather than on helping their people.
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Post by newboy on Jul 9, 2009 17:27:39 GMT 1
The most powerful nations have a hell of a lot of power, they could somehow force out the current leaders of those nations, and set up a new Gonverment.
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Post by Titanis on Jul 9, 2009 17:52:11 GMT 1
Well most of the most powerful nations have tried to do just that already in Iraq and Afghanistan. In Iraq there is much in fighting among groups who see themselves as Sunni Muslims, Shiite Muslims, Kurds, rather than Iraqis. In Afghanistan the former government, the Taliban, has now regained strength and is fighting back. Plus many people are now turning against us because they see us as invaders and conquerors. That's not to mention that both wars have become huge money pits.
I think if there is going to real change in a country, it has to come from within. You can't force change on a country, even if it is four the better. Nobody forced the ideas of freedom and democracy on colonial Americans. They themselves wanted it and fought hard for it. And just look how long America has been a democracy now.
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Post by newboy on Jul 9, 2009 17:55:56 GMT 1
I guess your right...but those countries that would accept help, much of Africa, Asia and China should be given the help, most of the poor people in the world are secreted in those areas anyway.
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Post by Titanis on Jul 9, 2009 20:06:26 GMT 1
I agree with you. Those who would use the help for good and not be hostile to it should be helped. But I still think any kind of governmental or idealistic changes have to come from within. We can help for sure. But we can't force them to change.
I think for most of the Middle East, it's not that they are poor nations, just that the governments keep most of the money for themselves. I mean, they control the majority of what's left of the world's oil, so with all the demand for oil how could they be poor?
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Post by newboy on Jul 11, 2009 9:34:07 GMT 1
^ Very true, although not all of them do that, most do. For example in Afghanistan, that country is being torn apart, going to war in there is not helping them, only blind poloticians cant see that.
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Post by gems on Jul 14, 2009 14:42:25 GMT 1
Well the majority of the big powers in the world are Capitalist. I can't really see a time when the whole world is going to because communists and share the wealth out equally. It just won't happen (or if it does then it certainly won't be a voluntary thing).
But I do think it's unfair when developing countries are having to pay off large debts. The g8 summit I think was very fair in calling off that debt. I mean really it was asking a great deal to ever expect a pay back of goodness knows how many billions by the countries too poor to supply water and basic health care without the aid of charity.
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